[00:00:02] Speaker A: Let me ask you something.
What if you saw someone experiencing mental health difficulties?
That moment of hesitation, wondering if you should intervene, what to say, or if maybe you're making it worse?
That, my friend, is a universal human experience.
During our time together, this podcast will explore the complexities of witnessing mental health struggles in others, moving beyond simple advice to understand the emotional weight and ethical responsibilities of being a bystander.
Through candid conversations with mental health professionals and those who have navigated these scenarios, my goal is to replace fear with compassionate, informed action.
As a listener, you'll discover practical strategies for initiating supportive conversations without overstepping, while still examining the societal stigmas that often silence us in these critical moments.
By sharing real stories and expert insights, this is a safe place to provide a positive space to normalize these interactions and to bolster this audience to become a sort of agent of positive change in your communities.
So come stick around and join us as we break down the barriers of silence and build a culture where mental health support is accessible, understood and effective for everyone involved. Cue the music.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: From the natural state. This is public facing the podcast with jo holman.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: All right, Annabelle, thank you for that.
Now May is Mental Health Awareness Month and it's an annual observance that was founded by Mental Health America way back in 1949.
This was done to reduce stigma and promote support for mental well being.
Now Mental health America, or MHA, was actually founded earlier than 1949.
It was established in 1949 by Clifford Whittingham Beers, a mental health advocate who drew from his own experiences with mental illness and institutionalization.
Now Beers published a book entitled A Mind that Found itself in the year 1908.
It was a memoir that exposed the mistreatment of people with mental illness and became a catalyst for reform.
This led to the founding of the organization initially called the National Committee for Mental Hygiene, which later evolved into Mental Health America.
The year 1949 marks the formal establishment of the organization under its enduring mission to promote mental health and support those affected.
Now I'm going to share some mental health awareness statistics because globally, approximately 970 million to 1 billion people currently live with a mental disorder and that represents roughly one in eight individuals worldwide.
Anxiety and depression are the most prevalent conditions, with anxiety becoming or rather affecting 301 million people and depression impacting 300 million globally.
The economic burden is severe with these conditions costing the global economy an estimated $1 trillion annually in lost productivity in low and middle income countries. Only 10% of people with these disorders receive adequate treatment and stigma remains a major barrier, with 80% of individuals in some low income nations labeled as cursed or possessed.
In the United States, it stated that 23.1% to 26.7% of adults. That's approximately 51.5 million to 61.5 million people experience a mental illness each year.
Young adults aged 18 to 25 have the highest prevalence of any mental illness, coming in at 36.2%, while women are diagnosed with depression at nearly twice the rate of men 26.4% versus 14.4% now. Despite the high prevalence, 48% of U.S. adults with mental illness received no treatment in 2022, with cost cited as the primary barrier for 45% of those seeking care.
Rural residents they face significant access issues with 60% lacking access to mental health providers and suicide remains a leading cause of death, particularly among adolescents and young adults so how do we talk about mental health?
Well, for starters, Most importantly, language matters.
Choosing supportive words can help people feel seen and heard and respected.
Mental health is essential to a person's life in the same way as physical health.
Hesitation to talk about mental health adds to the notion that the topic is taboo.
It's important to normalize conversations surrounding mental health so people can feel empowered to seek the help that they need.
There are many resources that can help you feel more informed that you may be able to better talk about mental health with the people in your life who may need your support.
So for those that are out there struggling today that have mental health problems, if you have or believe you may have a mental health problem, it can be helpful to talk about these issues with others.
But it likewise can be scary to reach out for help.
But it is often the first step to helping you heal, to grow and to recover.
Having a good support system and engaging with trustworthy people, Those are key elements to successfully talking about your own mental health.
So what do we do?
Build your support system.
Find someone such as a parent, family member, teacher, faith leader, health care provider, or other trusted individual who can give good advice when you've asked.
Assist you in taking actions that will help.
Likes, respects and trusts you as is and is someone you like. Respect and trust back.
A person that allows you the space to change, to grow, to make your decisions and even make mistakes.
Someone who listens to you and shares with you both the good and the bad times.
Respect your need for confidentiality so you can tell them anything.
Lets you freely express and validates your feelings and emotions without judging, teasing or criticizing.
Works with you to figure out what to do the next time a difficult situation comes up.
And finally, and probably very, very importantly, to have your best interest in mind now beyond building your support system, another thing is to find a peer group.
Find a group of people with mental health problems similar to yours.
Peer support relationships can positively affect individual recovery because people who have common life experiences have a unique ability to help each other.
Those same people often offer their experiences, their strengths and their hopes to peers which allows for natural evolution of personal growth, wellness promotion and recovery.
Now peers can be very supportive since they have been there and they serve as living examples that individuals can and do recover.
Now peers also serve as advocates and support others who may experience discrimination and prejudice.
You may want to start or join a self help or peer support group.
There are national organizations across the country that have peer support networks and peer advocates and you can learn about those.
The way to find those types of organizations you can go to samhsa.gov which is S A M H S A.gov or another good resource to check out is NAMI, which is N A M I.org NAMI is the national alliance on Mental Illness.
A lot of great resources and while you're doing all these things, participate in your treatment decisions. Yeah, that's right. It's also important for you to be educated and informed and engaged about your own mental health.
Find out as much as you can from a reputable source about mental health, wellness and information specific to your diagnosed mental health problem.
And you can get tips to setting up an appointment by checking out the SAMHSA.gov now there are many treatment options and support services to address mental health needs as well as those for drug and alcohol use.
So get involved in your treatment through shared decision making.
Participate fully with your mental health provider and make informed treatment decisions together.
Participating fully in shared decision making includes recognizing a decision needs to be made, identifying partners in the process as equals, stating options as equal, exploring understanding and expectations, identifying preferences, negotiating options and concordance sharing decisions and also arranging follow up to evaluate decision making outcomes. Making sure that the decision you made is a good fit, that it's something that's positive for you and not something that's negative that would tend to bring you down or work as a negative. Yeah.
Now it's important also to develop a recovery plan. So what do I mean?
Recovery is a process of change where individuals improve their health and their wellness and they live a self directed life and they strive to reach their full potential.
Now studies show that the most people that with mental health problems get better and many often recover, sometimes completely so you may want to develop your own written recovery plan. And recovery plans are basically made up of enabling you to identify goals for achieving wellness.
Also specify what you can do to reach those goals and these can be tracked daily as activities as well as longer term goals.
And also track your mental health problem.
If you are being diagnosed with depression and you're working a plan and you're sticking to the plan and all of your support people and your health workers, whatever, are on board, well, by all means be prepared to track where you are with your mental health. Are you getting depressed?
Are you experiencing episodes of extreme and unusual happiness which could be possibly construed as a manic episode?
These are things to look into, so identify triggers or other stressful events too that can make you feel worse and help you learn how to manage them.
Now, for the young people that are looking for help, Mental health problems don't only affect adults.
No children, teenagers and young adults can have mental health problems too.
In fact, three out of four people with mental health problems showed signs before they were 24 years old.
So what does mental health problem mean?
Great question.
Are you having trouble doing the things that you'd like to do or need to do because of how you feel?
For instance, like going to school or to work or hanging out with our friends?
Are you having a rough day?
Have you been feeling down for a while?
See, everyone goes through tough times and no matter how long you've had something on your mind, it's important that you talk to someone about it.
Talk to your parent or your guardian or a trusted adult if you experience any of these things.
Changes in appetite or sleep patterns.
Maybe you're having difficulty where you can't perform daily tasks like going to school.
You don't want to hang out with your friends or with family.
You don't want to do things that you usually enjoy.
Perhaps you're fighting a lot with family or friends or haven't been able to control your emotions and it's affecting your relationships with your family and your friends.
Perhaps you have low or no energy, or you feel hopeless.
You feel numb or like nothing matters.
You can't stop thinking about certain things or memories.
Perhaps you feel confused or forgetful, edgy, angry, upset, worried or scared.
Perhaps you want to harm yourself or others.
You have random aches and pains.
You're smoking or drinking excessively.
Perhaps you're hearing voices.
For some of these that are listed on here, we encourage you to contact a local health care provider or mental health agency to maybe sit down and have a chat about these specific mental health problems that are associated with these.
Now for those that want to learn more about young people and bullying and mental health, let me ask you something.
Is your mental health or someone else's affected by bullying?
Once you know the facts about mental health problems, you can share them with other people.
And remember to treat people with mental health problems with respect.
And you're not alone.
Lots of people have been right where you are or are there even right now.
But there are also lots of people who want to help you.
Another way to get help is by talking to someone you trust.
Now this could be a parent, a family member, a teacher, school counselor, a spiritual leader, or another trusted adult who gives good advice when you want and you ask for it that they respect your need for privacy so you can tell him or her anything Lets you talk freely about your feelings and emotions without judging, teasing or criticizing.
These are the people to help you figure out what to do the next time a difficult situation comes up.
My friend, if you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available.
Call or text 988 or chat with them at 988lifeline.org to learn how to get support for mental health, drug and alcohol issues.
Visit findsupport.gov to locate treatment facilities or providers. Again, findtreatment.gov or SAMHSA's National Helpline at 1-800-662-HELP. That's 1-800-662-4357.
For those that are parents, caregivers it can be hard to talk to your child or your dependent or person you're caring for about mental health problems.
As a parent caregiver, you want the very best for your children or other dependents.
You may be concerned or have questions about certain behaviors that they're exhibiting and how to ensure that they get help.
Look for things like this where it's important to be aware of warning signs with your child as they may be struggling.
You can play a critical role in knowing when your child may need help.
Consult a school counselor, school nurse, mental health provider or another health care professional if your child shows one or more of the following behaviors Feeling very sad or withdrawn or easily irritated for more than two weeks Seriously trying to harm or kill themselves or making plans to do so Experiencing sudden overwhelming fear for no reason, sometimes with a racing heart or fast breathing Getting into many fights or wanting to hurt others Showing severe out of control behavior that can hurt oneself or others not eating or purposefully throwing up or using laxatives to make themselves lose weight Having intense worries or fears that get in the way of daily activities experiencing extreme difficulty controlling behavior, putting themselves in physical danger or causing problems at school using drugs or alcohol having severe mood swings that can cause problems in relationships showing drastic changes in behavior or personality and a drop in their school performance.
Now, because children often can't understand difficult situations on their own, you should pay particular attention if they experience a loss of a loved one, a divorce or separation of their parents, any major transition, new home, new school, etc.
Traumatic life experiences like living through a natural disaster, any teasing or bullying that's been going on, or difficulties in school or just with other classmates.
So what we should do at this point, if you're concerned about your child's behaviors, it's important to get appropriate care.
You should talk to your child's doctor, school nurse, or another healthcare provider and seek further information about the behaviors or symptoms that worry you.
Ask your child's primary care physician if your child needs further evaluation by a specialist with experience in child behavioral problems.
Ask if your child specialist is experienced in treating the problems you're observing.
Talk to your mental Excuse me? Talk to your medical provider about any medication and treatment plans.
So when talking with our child about mental health, we need help starting a conversation with our child about mental health. And if you do need that help starting a conversation, these tend to be okay for icebreakers, so to speak.
Try leading with these questions and actively listen to your child's response.
Can you tell me more about what is happening?
How are you feeling?
Have you had feelings like this in the past?
Sometimes you need to talk to an adult about your feelings.
I'm here to listen.
How can I help you feel better?
Do you feel like you want to talk to someone else about your problem?
I'm worried for your safety. Can you tell me if you have thoughts about harming yourself or others?
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I think one of the things that really gets me is when people talk in circles.
I call it circling the drain. They never actually go straight to what it is they want to say. It's like they round about it the whole way until they're going finally down the drain. They have no choice.
So make sure you're communicating in a straightforward manner.
Speak at a level that is appropriate to a child or an adolescent's age and development level.
Preschool children would need fewer details than, say, a teenager.
Now discuss the topic with your child, making sure they feel safe and comfortable, and watch for reactions during the discussion and slow down or even back up if your child becomes confused or looks upset.
Listen openly and let your child tell you about your feelings and worries.
So how about when we are out there, we want to learn more so we can support our children.
There are many resources for parents and caregivers who want to know more about children's mental health, and some great resources can be found@the SAMHSA.gov website.
This will go into helping to recognize mental health problems in children and how they're affected by what they can do. What you can do also in diagnosing the and treating children with mental health problems. There's going to be a great number of resources there on this as well.
So start and keep up the conversation about the dangers of drinking alcohol or using drugs at a young age.
If you need to get help for your child, seek immediate assistance. If you think your child is in danger of harming themselves or others 988 you can call that number or text that number or Simply chat online at 988lifeline.org okay, so now I want to speak a bit about this. This next section would be for, let's say this would be for friends or even family members.
I tend to think of these ones that aren't necessarily the immediate family members, but this can vary.
Now, anyone can experience mental health problems and friends and family members can make all the difference in the world in the person's recovery process.
So as we learn how you can support your friends and your loved ones and help them look for help with their mental health problems, you can help them by recognizing the signs of mental health problems in connecting them with professional help.
Talking to friends and family about mental health problems can be an opportunity to provide information, support and guidance.
Learning about mental health issues can lead to improved recognition of early signs of mental health problems, which also links to earlier treatment and greater understanding and compassion not only for their own situation, but for others that they can see may be struggling with some of these situations as well.
So if a friend or family member is showing signs of a mental health problem or they're reaching out to you for help, it's okay. Offer support to them by finding out if the person is getting the care that they need or want.
If not, help them connect with someone who can.
Expressing your concern and support.
That's one of the. That's a positive there that you can do. You can express your concern and your support.
Reminding your friend or family member that help is available and that mental health problems can be treated.
Asking questions, listening to ideas and being responsive when the topic of mental health problems comes up.
Reassuring your friend or family member that you care about them.
Offering to help your friend or family member with everyday tasks.
Even including your friend or family member in your plans.
Continue to invite them without being overbearing even if your friend or family member resists your invitations.
Educating other people so that they understand the facts about mental health problems and not to discriminate.
Treating people with mental health problems with respect, compassion and empathy.
Now, if, if we are to move forward and talk about mental health at this point, well, do you need help starting a conversation about mental health?
Consider using some of these questions or augmenting these to help fit your situation or need.
And make sure that to be actively listening to your friend or your family member's response like I've been worried about you. Can we talk about what you're experiencing?
If not, who are you comfortable talking to?
What can I do to help you? To talk about issues with your parents or someone else is responsible and cares about you?
What else can I help you with?
I'm someone who cares and wants to listen.
What do you want me to know about how you're feeling, Who or what has helped you deal with similar issues in the past.
Sometimes talking to someone who has dealt with a similar experience helps.
Do you know of others who have experienced these types of problems? Who you can talk with?
It seems like you're going through a difficult time.
How can I help you find help?
How can I help you find more information about mental health problems?
I'm concerned about your safety.
Have you thought about harming yourself or others?
And when I'm talking about mental health problems, it's more like know how to connect people to help communicate in a straightforward manner, speak at a level appropriate to a person's age and development level.
Preschool children, again, need fewer details than that of say teenagers and discuss the topic when and where the person feels safe and comfortable.
Watch for reactions during the discussion and slow down or back up if the person becomes confused or looks upset.
Sometimes it is helpful to make a comparison to a physical illness.
Okay. For example, many people get sick with a cold or the flu, but only a few get really sick with something serious like pneumonia.
So people who have a cold are usually able to do their normal activities.
However, if they get pneumonia, well then they'll have to take medicine and may have to go to the hospital.
Similarly, feelings of sadness, anxiety, worry, irritability or even sleep problems, they're common for most people.
However, it's when these feelings get very intense and they last for a long period of time and they begin to interfere with school or work or relationships, well, that may be a sign of mental health problems.
And just like people need to take medicine and get professional help for physical conditions, someone with a mental health problem may need to take medicine and or participate in therapy to get better.
Again, if someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available.
Call or text 988 or chat online at 988lifeline.org to find how to get support for mental health, drug and alcohol issues. Visit findsupport.gov Now I know that some of this obviously, maybe not obviously, some of it is a lot of this is repetitive in ways little key elements.
That's because these are tried and true suggestions and pieces of advice and they work so we talked about being the person with the mental health problem. We've talked about the, the family member, we've talked about friends, we've talked about, you know, even the that of.
Seeking out assistance if you're, you know, whether you need to go get seen to determine whether you might be needing further help.
That can and often does but not always include medication.
Sometimes therapy is, is enough to do the trick when we catch it in, in the early stages, in time.
So on now to the educators. We talked a bit about how the school situation and how there you may have been so potentially say, depressed or going through something so deep that you can't seem to make it to get to school or, or that sort of thing, or perhaps you can't make it to your job.
Well, we're going to move on now with the educators.
Now, educators are often the first to notice mental health problems in children and young adults.
And I will say that this does include not only for, say, school kids, that sort of thing, but college.
College students also, I believe, could benefit from this if they have an educator whose eyes are open and can pick out some of the symptoms and whatnot when they become present.
So again, educators are often the first to notice mental health problems in children, young adults. But here I'm going to share things that you can do as an educator.
How to develop effective strategies to meet the mental health needs of your students, plus some positive ways you can help your students and their families.
So educators should know the warning signs for mental health problems and how to promote mental health and substance use prevention within the school or campus and whom to turn to, such as the principal, the school nurse, the school psychiatrist, etc.
Even on down to the school social worker. Yeah.
So if you have questions or concerns about a student's behavior, then these are the people you may need to reach out to.
And also how to access crisis support and other mental health services.
Also, educators should be on the lookout for student behavior.
Consulting with a school counselor, a nurse or administrator, and the student's parents. If you observe one or more of the following behaviors.
Feeling very sad or withdrawn for more than two weeks.
Seriously trying to harm themselves or making plans to do so.
Sudden, overwhelming fear for no reason, sometimes with a racing heart or a fast breathing.
Involvement in many fights or desire to be badly hurt other people.
Severe out of control behavior that can hurt oneself or others.
They're not eating, they're purposefully throwing up or they're using laxatives to make themselves lose weight.
Intense worries or fears that get in the way of daily activities.
Extreme difficulty concentrating or staying still that puts the student in physical danger or causes problems in the classroom.
Repeated use of drugs or alcohol.
Severe mood swings that cause problems in relationships.
Drastic changes in the student's behavior or personality.
Now, educators can do several things in classrooms and in their schools. You see, they can support the mental health of all students within their classroom and school, not just individual students who may exhibit behavioral issues.
They can do things like learn more about mental health and by taking a mental health awareness training which in many circles is a bit standard now.
Promoting social and emotional competency and build resilience and to help ensure a positive, safe school environment.
Teach and reinforce positive behaviors and decision making.
Encourage helping others and encourage good physical health and finally help ensure access to school based mental health supports.
Now in developing effective school mental health programs these efforts to care for the emotional well being of children and youth and they can extend beyond the classroom and into the entire school.
School based mental health programs can focus on promoting mental wellness, preventing mental health problems and providing treatment.
Effective programs are promoting the healthy social and emotional development of all children and youth.
Recognizing when young people are at risk for or are experiencing mental health problems.
Identify how to intervene early and appropriately when there are problems Again, for more resources as an educator, head over to SAMHSA.gov.
So now on to addressing for the community and faith leaders before they turn to a healthcare professional.
Many people they may turn to community and they may turn to faith leaders when facing mental health problems or traumatic events.
This is where we show how to support mental health in your community.
You see, faith and community leaders are often the first point of contact when individuals and families face mental health problems or traumatic events.
In fact, in times of crisis, many will turn to trusted leaders in their communities before they turn to mental health professionals.
Now in creating community connections for mental health leaders, know how to respond and they can help educate individuals and families about mental health, increasing awareness of mental health issues and making it easier for people to seek help.
Community connectedness and and support are also important to the long term recovery of people living with mental illnesses.
Faith communities are also in a unique position to reach many of the millions of Americans who struggle with serious thoughts of suicide each year.
Many people having thought of suicide feel hopeless.
They feel trapped and often struggle to face another day.
Suicidal thoughts are often accompanied by a spiritual crisis or deep questioning about the purpose of life.
Faith leaders who are better able to recognize the signs of suicide and know how to respond can serve as an expanded safety net for those most in need.
So here's what community and faith leaders can do.
They can educate their communities and congregations Promote awareness by educating the members of your communities and congregations about mental health issues through educational forums and other opportunities.
Invite local mental health experts, including those who have experienced mental illness, to speak with your congregation or at community gatherings.
Share facts and common myths about Mental Health Support the development of a trauma informed community.
See trauma often lies beneath seemingly unrelated problems.
Organize additional meetings, dinners or other gatherings for members of your congregation or community to have conversations about mental health.
You can identify opportunities to support people with mental illnesses in the religious communities and other community organizations. They can play an important role in supporting individuals living with mental illnesses and encouraging them to seek help.
Consider offering your organization's meeting spaces for community conversations and support groups focused on addressing mental health issues.
Provide space for peer led groups that give people the chance to tell their stories in their own time and way.
Include safe, shared spaces for people to interact, for example parks and community centers that can foster healthy relationships and positive mental health among community members.
Support community programs, e.g. peer mentoring programs or opportunities for volunteering that encourage social participation and inclusion for all people.
Next, continue to connect individuals and families to help strengthen the connections within your community to mental health services and support and enhanced linkages between mental health, substance abuse, disability and other social services.
Learn the basic signs of mental illnesses and other facts about mental health to encourage those in need to seek help.
Remind others that people can and do recover from mental health challenges and that help is available and effective.
Train key community members such as adults who work with the children, the youth, older adults, veterans, etc.
That they would be able to identify the signs of depression and suicide and refer people to the resources and develop relationships with local mental health service providers and other family and youth organizations to help to direct individuals and families in need to available services and support in the community.
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So in closing here finally promoting acceptance of those with mental health issues.
You know the voices of leaders and the members of faith based and other community organizations.
These can greatly influence attitudes about mental health conditions and those who experience them.
So talk about your mental health openly.
Be an example of taking good care of your mental health by making mental wellness a priority in your personal life.
Be inclusive.
Mental health affects all of us.
Foster opportunities to build connections with individuals and families dealing with mental health challenges through trust and acceptance.
Foster safe and supportive environments for people to openly talk about mental health, stress, trauma and related issues and encourage and express empathy in your family, in your congregation, in your community.
Convey a message of non violence acceptance and compassion.
If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available.
Call or text 988-ORCH at 988lifeline.org to learn how to get support for mental health, drug and alcohol issues. Visit findsupport.gov to locate treatment facilities or providers. Again, It's a find treatment.gov or call SAMHSA's National Helpline at 1-800-662-HELP. That's 1-800-662-4357.
I want to thank the resources from SAMHSA for this episode and also for you, my favorite listener for being on board and staying with me and listening. Lots of information that I've shared today. A lot of good information to pass on to those in your circle.
I want to thank you again for sticking around today and visiting us on Public Facing the Podcast.
Until next time, be safe, be healthy and be aware.
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